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is drunken boxing the real form?

Postby kenpo kung fu on Sun Jun 27, 2004 19:05

i have a video of drunken boxing form and it`s not the same that the file that it`s put here
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Re: is drunken boxing the real form?

Postby SeanStonehart on Sun Jun 27, 2004 23:47

kenpo kung fu wrote:i have a video of drunken boxing form and it`s not the same that the file that it`s put here


It doesn't matter. Drunken is an idea or skill set to add on to an existing skill set. There's no official sets. Some systems have them, some don't. That doesn't mean one is any more real or not than another.
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Postby rxjay on Mon Jun 28, 2004 07:48

many styles have different drunken forms incorporated. i wouldn't say add to an existing form, i only know one drunken form, but i can surely say that i dunno wat it would looked like if it wasn't done drunken. and the training is different too.
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Postby Kookie on Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:42

rxjay wrote:many styles have different drunken forms incorporated. i wouldn't say add to an existing form, i only know one drunken form, but i can surely say that i dunno wat it would looked like if it wasn't done drunken. and the training is different too.


We also have a drunken form incorperated. For me the " drunken part" is a state of mind , like for example when you do the tigerform the " spirit" of the tiger should be in you. when my teacher does the drunkenform his eyes get a little clouded without drinking anything!!
It just imitates the movement of a drunk , BUT before you can do this you must have experienced how it is to move drunken.

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Postby rxjay on Sun Jul 11, 2004 03:34

Kookie wrote:
rxjay wrote:many styles have different drunken forms incorporated. i wouldn't say add to an existing form, i only know one drunken form, but i can surely say that i dunno wat it would looked like if it wasn't done drunken. and the training is different too.


We also have a drunken form incorperated. For me the " drunken part" is a state of mind , like for example when you do the tigerform the " spirit" of the tiger should be in you. when my teacher does the drunkenform his eyes get a little clouded without drinking anything!!
It just imitates the movement of a drunk , BUT before you can do this you must have experienced how it is to move drunken.

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but drunken form is just different from tiger forms, i can't really seem it incorporated. becuase they have different theories on how to attack and so on. different systems may have them, but if they have something like a crane form then a drunken crane i just dun't see it working, because as you said u have to move drunken, and u can't really move drunken like a crane.
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Postby Elzieran on Mon Jul 12, 2004 13:28

8 immortals drunken boxing, is an entire drunken MA...

Can someone list all the other MA's you can think of that have Drunken forms?
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Postby rxjay on Mon Jul 12, 2004 16:35

i have seen whitebrow with a drunken form. but i'm not sure whether it is traditionally part of it.
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Postby MantisGuy on Mon Jul 12, 2004 19:18

Elzieran wrote:8 immortals drunken boxing, is an entire drunken MA...

Can someone list all the other MA's you can think of that have Drunken forms?


I practice Northern seven Star Praying Mantis (shocked? :wink: ) which although I don't beleive to have a whole form based on drunken kung fu, there are forms which incorperate drunken kung fu, e.g routine 14 of lower leg kicking (sab sei lo tam toi [cantonese]) to name one.

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Postby Kookie on Tue Jul 13, 2004 09:25

rxjay wrote:
Kookie wrote:
rxjay wrote:many styles have different drunken forms incorporated. i wouldn't say add to an existing form, i only know one drunken form, but i can surely say that i dunno wat it would looked like if it wasn't done drunken. and the training is different too.


We also have a drunken form incorperated. For me the " drunken part" is a state of mind , like for example when you do the tigerform the " spirit" of the tiger should be in you. when my teacher does the drunkenform his eyes get a little clouded without drinking anything!!
It just imitates the movement of a drunk , BUT before you can do this you must have experienced how it is to move drunken.

Greetz Kookie


but drunken form is just different from tiger forms, i can't really seem it incorporated. becuase they have different theories on how to attack and so on. different systems may have them, but if they have something like a crane form then a drunken crane i just dun't see it working, because as you said u have to move drunken, and u can't really move drunken like a crane.


Maybe the tiger was a poor example , I meant to say that in our drunkenform you have to have the "spirit " of a drunk in you and not be actually drunk.Like I said for me its a state of mind. In our style there is NO drunken tiger. I don't see that working either :D .

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Postby rxjay on Wed Jul 14, 2004 05:23

but to have the spirit do you not have to have the form as well? i don't think its enough to say you're doing a style because of your state of mind. a tiger style has tiger like moves, uses the tiger claw to pull you in. i think spirit and form go hand in hand.
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Postby Kookie on Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:15

rxjay wrote:but to have the spirit do you not have to have the form as well? i don't think its enough to say you're doing a style because of your state of mind. a tiger style has tiger like moves, uses the tiger claw to pull you in. i think spirit and form go hand in hand.


I agree they do go hand in hand , one is nothing witout the other.

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Postby Jackie Chen on Tue Jul 20, 2004 15:00

Drunken Mantis
Drunken Tiger
Drunken Monkey
Drunken Bear
Drunken Shaolin Monk...

too many movie...

all those form emulated real Zui Pa Xian (Tsui Pa Hisien) Eight Immortal Drunken

Li Po docet
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Postby DrunkenFist on Tue Jul 20, 2004 21:34

the point is is that Drunken Boxing is the best ever.....
Drunken fist!!!!!!

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Postby MantisGuy on Wed Jul 21, 2004 07:59

Yeah, it is pretty cool to practice, you need very good balance and stance work though 8)
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Postby rxjay on Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:51

also the 'chum hun tun tao' 'drop chest swallow stomache'
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